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Sunday, September 24, 2006

More on Torture

Digby has been all over the torture bill. Start here and just keep scrolling down:

In case anyone's not convinced, how about this "Report on Guantanamo Detainees: A Profile of 517 Detainees through Analysis of Department of Defense Data:"

There are now about 490 prisoners at Gitmo, and "55 percent of the detainees are not determined to have committed any hostile acts against the United States or coalition allies.

"Only 8 percent of the detainees were characterized as Al Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining detainees, 40 percent have no definitive connection with Al Qaeda at all and 18 percent have no definitive affiliation with either Al Qaeda or the Taliban.

"Only 5 percent of the detainees were captured by United States forces. [A total of] 86 percent of the detainees were arrested by either Pakistan or the Northern Alliance and turned over to United States custody. This 86 percent of the detainees captured by Pakistan or the Northern Alliance were turned over to the United States at a time at which the United States offered large bounties for capture of suspected enemies."


These are some of the people Bush wants to torture.

Digby's summation on the "compromise":

This is it folks. There will be no judicial oversight of torture which means there is no way to enforce the law. The world will just have to trust George W. Bush to follow those laws based upon his superior morals and decency.

Note especially this one by tristero.

And Digby on the Democrats:

The Democrats showed they are ciphers who don't have the stones to even say a word when the most important moral issue confronting the government is being debated.

One very important thing to note, and to write your Senators about: both Bush's bill and the "compromise" bill take away habeas corpus and the right to judicial review for detainees. So, anyone that Bush decides is an "enemy combatant" could just sit in Gitmo for life, based on absolutely nothing.

Yes, I bolded that whole thing. That's how important I think it is.

And after seeing this story, I wonder how much of the "rebellion" was staged. Like, all of it?

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